Why we cannot recognize the fact that the ancients were highly advanced — we are blinded by the light of our own selfishness. To the ancients, war was counterproductive. Look what they created for us and we are destroying the very technology that would save us (the primary technology). It already exists and we cannot see it for the trees or the forest.
http://www.enigmni.com/Roc-PrimaryTech.h...
The mindset of ancient earthlings was different than what one would expect. They were highly educated and advanced in a different type of knowledge, one built upon what some call the "Pharaoh" means of existence. They used the primary technology of an already existing paradigm that would look like genetic engineering to us but more advanced. They lived in and with this technology developing and using the elementals of what we call nature. All humans owned the land, but did not own property other than their own gear for daily existence. They were chemical engineers, doctors, and builders also. The Earth's population then was not as massive as ours today, but highly stratified. Each person was born to a culture that was already set. I believe it might have been not unlike R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz's concept/s of symbolique or life lived by the heart. It was not materialistic as is ours, but highly philosophical and truly deep. Silence was something enjoyed to the highest level. Dreams were just as much an important aspect of being as a rock concert is to us and perhaps much more. Those pyramids we find scattered around the Earth, were nothing more than entry points where the few flying ships deposited people and supplies for research. There were centrally located seats around the planet that we might consider as cities but they were more like a massive university where learning and teaching of concepts of high and deep thought went on and at levels we would not recognize in that they were much more expansive and gestalt. What one thought was of much more import than having possessions. All the tools of existence were provided naturally for the most part. They knew all aspects of Nature and what tools it provided for medical purposes (like honey to cure any scraps or wounds). Every plant and animal was a known entity to these beings. Life to them was a never ending adventure and a constant learning experience. Their knowledge of the universe of existence was also expansive. Manly P. Hall has touched upon how they must have thought with his book's Conclusion in THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES. We could be so much more in this life, but we are too preoccupied with things rather than the living as provided by the BOOK OF LIFE, which is actually all around us. I could teach that course, but no.
http://finerworks.com/mgallery/details.a...
Not that one is, but that whereby Is, is.
Ron O. Cook (the enigmni)
Survival
The Indians were schooled from birth by the act of living for pure survival.
But don't you think that same daily struggle for surviving day after day might prevent one from admiring the beauty that surrounded them, at least most of the time? In that sense, the Native Americans might have not been so different from the rest of us —i.e. in being too preoccupied with their daily routine to ponder on the more trascendental things, except perhaps in the annual communal celebrations.
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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!
Red Pill Junkie
My Experience has been as an Indian
You may be right, but my experience has been living almost like an Indian having been raised out in West Texas on Ranches and Dairies and of course I was an Eagle Scout. My ancestors were Cherokee and Apache and my head has been in just about every book on Indians since my youth. I have studied the ancient Mexicans for about 30 years and have a deep love for Nature.
I do not know, but much of that research seems to show that finding food was really not that hard in the past. Insects are everywhere and they are a good source of food. Heck, food is everywhere. For one who knows, you can almost just walk a few steps and there it is. That leaves a lot of time to study Nature and grow in knowledge and wisdom about this planet.
I agree but...
But is the folly of men to fight not over the things they most need, but the things they crave.
And we might be falling into wishful thinking, if we assume the Native American nations didn't follow a similar pattern.
Didn't the Pawnees wage into continuous battles with their enemies, the Cherokee, over resources like hunting lands or even women?
You can live off the land with very little, but when you see your neighbor enjoying something you lack, THAT's where problems arise.
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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!
Red Pill Junkie
If one were born into a world not full of stuff...
I believe existence could be built upon other data to fill the mind of a being. If one were born to a world where worth were determined by what greatness is held within their minds rather than external possessions and that a different emphasis were put upon passing on positive aspects to others via your own research then I would be up for existence in such a realm.
To be schooled or even born in a realm where the primary emphasis were on learning by doing and correspondence via simulation of potential one could become a member of a team to be sent out into areas of the Earth to continue research if Nature were the end-product. Genetic Engineering would be the basis and output via the Primary Technology would be the goal to amplify humanity and the over all mission of existence. All the other crap we are taught to be important would just hold no value. I think we missed our calling.
I would like to experiment that too
The idea of a world where learning was more valued than owning, where Libraries were more important than Banks, is certainly appealing to me too.
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It's not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me...
It's all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!
Red Pill Junkie
When Fall overtakes Summer
Noise and materiality is killing my soul. Silence and deep thought should take the place of all the crap that inundates our minds. I wish I were taught early in my life where everything could be dedicated to the amplification of intellect and wisdom. Nature is a school unto itself and the human body is full of the cues to who and what we are universally for it all resides within ourselves.
I have been thinking about this for a long time. I think we have missed the boat.
I wish someone with a lot of money, would back the start of this means of existence. It would require a lot of work. I think Paul Davies once had an idea like this.
Man was cleverer in the past!
For a long time now I have despaired whenever I heard "experts" say that people in the ancient past were not as "clever" or "knowledgeable" as modern man.
For me, I realised that mankind has actually been slowly "disabling" him/herself as we "progressed" with technology.
We are now LESS capable than mankind was in ancient times!
It also easily possible that mankind also progressed in some form of technology but not in quite the way we have done, and so was a lot more intellectual and practical in their thinking.
Strangely enough, the ordinary people of the time were "slaves" to the technolgy, and the religious/political thinking of the time, as are we today.
As for all humans owning the land, this is an idea that I believe should be reintroduced. If I want to go and live outside my immediate society, within the wildnerness of my country (England) I am not allowed to because I have to pay dues to the council, for services I may not get, but theoretically could get! I must obey the rules of the government of this country as a whole, and not try to impose my own rules within my own small area of land in which I temporarily live, as to do so may go against the national laws, and place me in the category of a criminal. The government believes IT owns the land, and NOT the PEOPLE! Strange but true.
The reality is we ALL own the land on which reside, albeit temporarily, and that should be acknowledged.
I will never get any material inheritance. Circumstances forbade that. Nor do I want any. For material goods only have value to the person who treasures them.
What I do value however is information, which can also be disseminated amongst lots of people, and should be done without payment of any kind. Hence, I have a lot of written information, as well as information on computer disk. This is the most valuable thing of all.
In ancient times, you didn't need to write things down, because you were taught how to memorise it! Today, any form of testing/memorising methods are frowned upon. The dumbing down of modern man is well under way.
We have also lost the ability to be practical, or at least are in the process of losing it. Technology is useful for those who are disabled already - it enables them to come close to the independence of others who are able bodied. But, technology DISABLES those who are already able-bodied! Think about it.
Carol A Noble
Good stuff Carol
I like your thinking. Land and possession is our big problem. It is what is in your mind that you truly own and it determines your worth. If we did determine worth according to how hard we worked to learning more and more to be accessed by our brothers and sisters, then we would have a realm that I call the PRIMARY TECHNOLOGY.
I fell upon this story in Archaeology Magazine on a new find:
Archaeology's November/December issue has something very interesting. The strange T shapes have 90 degree cuts that would be almost impossible to comprehend by the mind of a savage or one practicing a fertility cult. It is suggested that these T shaped elementals are about or more than 12,000 years old. What is up with this???
http://www.archaeology.org/0511/reviews/...
It looks like a point of departure for R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz's THE TEMPLE OF MAN. (ANCIENT EGYPT IS NOT SO ANCIENT NOW).